Do you are concerned that New York gained’t absolutely return to what it was earlier than the pandemic?
LEBOWITZ I’ve lived in New York lengthy sufficient to know that it’ll not keep the way in which it’s now. There may be not a sq. foot of New York Metropolis, a sq. foot, that’s the identical because it was once I got here right here in 1970. That’s what a metropolis is, even with out a plague. However I’d wish to level out, there have been many issues incorrect with it earlier than. After the massive protests in SoHo, I noticed a reporter interviewing a lady who was a supervisor of one of many fancy shops there. The reporter mentioned to her, “What are you going to do?” And he or she mentioned, “There’s nothing we will do till the vacationers come again.” I yelled on the TV and I mentioned, “Actually? You’ll be able to’t assume what to do with SoHo with out vacationers? I can! Let me provide you with some concepts.” As a result of I keep in mind it with out vacationers. How about, artists might stay there? How about, let’s not have hire that’s $190,000 a month? How about that? Let’s attempt that.
Has the pandemic ever made you’re feeling extra susceptible or conscious of your individual fragility?
LEBOWITZ It makes me really feel angrier. Fortunately, I’ve managed to distill all human emotion into anger. It doesn’t matter what the preliminary emotion is: It might be despair, unhappiness, worry — mainly I expertise it as anger. It makes me really feel indignant as a result of this didn’t need to occur in any respect.
SCORSESE I really don’t know the place I belong on the island. I grew up downtown when it was fairly robust in that space. Now it’s very stylish. It’s now not house for me, definitely. I’ve grown outdated, and out, in a means. I’ve been locked in and dealing on FaceTime. I’ve been making an attempt to make this film [“Killers of the Flower Moon”] since March. Each two days, they are saying we’re going. After which they are saying, no we’re not. It’s a state of tension and rigidity. However in any occasion, I actually haven’t gone out that a lot. I can’t take an opportunity, both.
The day the pandemic is over — there’s now not any danger of the coronavirus and we will all return to our traditional lives — what’s the very first thing you do?
SCORSESE Very first thing I might say is, please, to go to a restaurant. There’s just a few that I’m lacking an incredible deal. I’ll by no means eat exterior. I don’t perceive how one can sit there and the fumes from the buses are available in. I don’t get it. It’s not Paris.
LEBOWITZ I’ve been consuming exterior. There isn’t a better testomony to how a lot I hate to cook dinner than the very fact I’ll sit exterior in 28-degree climate, making an attempt to eat with gloves on. I want to eat at a restaurant. Additionally, I want to crawl round beneath the tables within the uncommon ebook room on the Strand and once I deliver the issues to the register and the man goes, “The place did you discover this?” It was underneath the desk. “We haven’t priced it but! You’re not purported to take it out from underneath there.” Effectively, I did, so how a lot is it?